rename error and file open speed problem

Q&A
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Hi! there.

• Bonita BPM version 6.5.4
• operating system windows 7 service pack 1

I have two questions.

  1. I want to change a diagram name. The menu path is Diagram > Rename … Choose a new name and version…
    It worked well nomally. But sometime another new diagram is created. Have I to delete the old diagram?

  2. Actually, I use only diagram because of some aim. So, the other functions isn’t needed at present except for diagram. But It takes too much time to open a diagram. Is any method to work faster? or Can I shut down other functions except for digram?

Thank you for your assistance.

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I would suggest you up your RAM to 8GB at least…this will make everything, not just Bonitasoft, work better.

BUT, yes there is a catch - you’ll need 64 bit…

see here for more memory info…

http://www.zdnet.com/article/clearing-up-the-3264-bit-memory-limit-confusion/
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/markrussinovich/2008/07/21/pushing-the-limits-of-windows-physical-memory/

Bonitasoft works fine on 32 bit, it’s just what are your expectations? if you want 5 second opening time, then expectations will never be met…

In reality though, it works much better on 64 bit with lots of RAM (and SSD).

This is a question we keep getting at work…payroll is not working as fast as expected…

What?

What is expected?

What is fast?

The users want it finished in 30 minutes, but then they throw 60,000 people with overtime, medical, housing, holiday and other etcs. at it…so two hours is realistic…just not expected (we know better of course) …

I hope you’re not trying to open 300 diagrams at the same time…that would not work… :slight_smile:

3 Steps (tasks) per diagram, that’s fine,

But if you have 10 pools (main + 9 subtasks) each with 3 steps in a diagram then you are opening 30 steps…not 3.

Regarding the other functions: Organization(Actors), Development(connector), Simulation etc.

No you can’t remove them. They are part of the tool, there is nothing you can do there that will help in this case.

So I used to export only diagram(Export > Deselect All > check “Diagram” > Finish)

Regarding whenever a diagram is exported, some errors are occured. ‘java.lang.NullPointerException’.
Why are the errors occured?

How can I eliminate this errors?

have you thought that I used to export only diagram(Export > Deselect All > check “Diagram” > Finish)

might be your problem? By removing things that the model is dependent on…it can’t find them so fails.

Though I understand why you have done this…Because of them the exporting takes too much time. about 2 minutes.

So in summary, to meet your expectations of quick response the minimum (best case) you have to do is:

Upgrade to 64 bit OS, and
Upgrade your memory

Depending on your actual PC - this may not be possible (for example some laptops are limited to only 4GB with no possibility of upgrading) then (worst case) you need to buy a new PC.

To my mind, purchasing a new PC really will be the best thing to do in this case.

If you’re frightened of going to Windows 10 - I’ve been using it for more than a year (as an insider), it’s actually very good.

Just for the Linux fans:
Some may say move to Linux, sure, I have no problem with that, just be ready for learning lots of new things…and I mean lots of new things…

hope this helps

regards
Seán

PS: If this reply answers your question, please mark a resolved.

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regarding 1) - I’ve never seen this, are you sure you’ve not hit Duplicate by mistake? :slight_smile: I know I’ve done this in the past…

Regarding deleting the old diagram that’s up to you…

regarding 2) - You use one diagram - as a Template from which you build all others? You don’t say.

You also don’t say what other functions are not needed, can you be more specific, what functions?

  1. What do you call “too long” to open a diagram; 15s, 30s, 5 min?
  2. How big is your diagram; 1 step, 5 step, 30 step?
  3. What hardware are you using? All my diagrams open quickly (even those with 30 steps). But my system is all SSD and I have 16GB RAM and a powerful processor.

You could as I have done work out exactly what needs to be fixed/changed in a diagram source and build an external routine to open/change/save new diagrams…I’ve done 50 diagrams (all based on template) in 1 minute… :slight_smile:

This is for a teaching exercise and all student get the same “new” diagram to work from…, we change the Diagram and Pool names according to need (Student Number).

regards
Seán

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Thank you for your answer.
more detail…

  1. It takes over 1 minute by 1 diagram. All diagram are over 300.
  2. Does the step mean subprocess? Then it’s not over 3 steps in the model.
  3. CPU intel Core i7 2.93GHz, RAM 4GB, 32bit window 7
    Isn’t my compuer sufficient for Bonita 6.5.4 ?

And other function mean… for example Organization(Actors), Development(connector), Simulation etc.
I want to draw only diagrams, to export or import them.
So I used to export only diagram(Export > Deselect All > check “Diagram” > Finish)

May I have more question?
Whenever a diagram is exported, some errors are occured. ‘java.lang.NullPointerException’
Why are the errors occured? How can I eliminate this errors? Becaues of them the exporting takes too much time. about 2minutes.

Thank you for your help again.